First reason: they never talk about envy. I was popular enough with women to have been the object of envious attacks from other guys, which they always did behind my back. I've also been the objects of envious attacks by women, who for one thing try to redirect your attention from other women (at the least) to trying to destroy your life (at the most).
And, yes, they do attack "Alphas" and try to bring them down, contrary to the Manosphere delusions nothing happens to them.
The second reason is something I learned from my father. My father was very good-looking - like movie-star good-looking. I didn't inherit it. He experienced the same thing I did, only a lot worse. Like getting into fights.
He told me when I was a kid that when you get hit on the point of the chin you see stars.
He was right. Everything turns black for a second and you see all these little multi-colored stars. The back of your brain, where the visual part is located, bounces off the back of your skull. I've experienced it.
If Roissy and Vox Day were telling the truth and weren't loudmouths, and where as popular as they say they are, and laid as many women as Roissy claims, believe me, they'd be talking about envy. And fights or avoiding them.
But they don't. Never. I wonder if they've ever been in a fight, especially the loudmouth-with-nothing-to-back-it-up Roissy. I doubt it. I really doubt it.
I've never seen them comment about fighting. You realize how hollow 'game' is once you start learning what fighting is all about.
"And, yes, they do attack "Alphas" and try to bring them down, contrary to the Manosphere delusions nothing happens to them."
That's true too. Whenever I suggest that crazy women scorn will tear down any man who wrongs them the 'does not compute' response is usually thrown my way.
They care about the notch...the negative consequences they rarely talk about.
One has to be very careful taking anything on the "manosphere" too carefully to heart. Most of these guys know nothing of actual power and how to utilize it and, most importantly, when NOT to.
The guys that I see in the bars, and I've been playing in bars for a long time, that are the "Alphas" that these guys laud so copiously are, in fact, mostly utter douchebags with no regard for anything but their own peckerwood desires to get their winky wet.
On the stage, I have power. I'm no slouch on a guitar, nor as an entertainer. But any power comes with a price. And using it in the manner that these guys suggest turns the male into the ugly mirror of the women he claims to hate for being narcissistic and selfish. It's a high price. One I suggest most every male looking to become a man avoid like the plague it is.
I've noticed that too, that red pill bloggers seem to think that alphas never have ANY problems with women whatsoever. They never get falsely accused, they never get hit with harassment charges, and their women are always sweet and submissive and ever ready to please them. Anyone who is really alpha or has any alpha friends or relatives knows that's pure horseshit.
Like with this new yes means yes law in California - they think that only betas need to worry about morning after regret false rape accusations. As if a scorned girl would never lie about being raped as a way of getting back at an alpha guy who dumped her. It's ridiculous.
I hate and loathe Unca Bob and John over at 'Just Not Said'. They are ruggedly handsome men and I hate their guts on general principles (I am a fat old fart that probably couldn't score in a cat house!!)I would put a dagger between their shoulder blades if I could!!!!! Beware the Ides Of March, Bob!!!!
Vox, on the other hand, makes me laugh. Like you guys he gets some good discussions going from time to time but a lot of stinkers too. He has been kind of stale of late. Perhaps it is just the foolishness of youth getting the best of him...
The comments about envy are true, I'm quite tall and have been attacked alot over it, generally in a passive agressive way by a shorter man.
And yeah, all Vox Day does is shill for his publishing house and piss and moan over the "Gamma Rabbit" like a butthurt teenage girl.
Another example proving my point -- NBA player's career ruined by false DV allegations.
I'm sure it's because he was a beta with no game, right? We all know what beta chumps basketball players are, right?
I've always gotten a chuckle when I think about how easily people will swallow hook, line and sinker stories that are utterly unverifiable simply because they are on the internet and the author writes with authority.
The Penthouse Forum wasn't a documentary.
You did know that Vox Day is a practicing martial artist, right?
I was too. Chop-socky BS, worthless on the ground.
How are martial arts worthless? They're called martial, or war, arts. You also know that Karate was developed on Okinawa when the people had their weapons taken from them, correct? How are martial arts worthless when Chuck Norris could kick your ass (or mine, for that matter) without breaking a sweat?
I repeat: chop-socky BS, worthless on the ground. Chuck Norris is an actor, and those stand-up guys nearly always lose in the ring against wrestlers and ju-jitsu. I've seen a lot of fights and been in a lot and they always go to the ground, where karate and Tae Kwon Do are worthless. I was trained in Tae Kwon Do and wish I had taken Judo.
Chuck Norris was a world class competitor before he was an actor. That said, your other points about fights going to the ground are well taken.
Mark, Chuck Norris competed in karate tournaments; stand-up competitions with rules.
He would get mauled by a wrestler.
"Mark, Chuck Norris competed in karate tournaments; stand-up competitions with rules.
He would get mauled by a wrestler."
Wrestlers don't do well against Muay Thai or kick-boxing, because their game is on the ground, not on their feet. Chuck Norris also knows taekwondo, as well, and many other martial arts.
The Gracie brothers know BJJ, yet got taken down by 'The Gracie Hunter'. They don't do well, even against judo. It ultimately depends on the fighter.
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