Monday, August 29, 2016

I Have Scant Sympathy for American Indian Tribes

I used this quote at the beginning of my last article: “Every state begins with violence, and (if it becomes secure) mellows into liberty.” It was from Will Durant’s The Lessons of History.

It’s pretty much a trope these days about how “we took the Indians’ land.” To which I respond, “So what? It’s the history of the world. If you can’t defend it, someone will take it from you.”

When I was about 16 I ran across the novel Little Big Man, by Thomas Berger. I thoroughly enjoyed it and read it many times.

I remember thinking, “It’s just a novel, but I wonder how much of the history is true?”

It was about some of the Western Indian tribes, and it turned out Berger did his homework.

One scene I remember in particular is Berger writing about how such Indians would catch an enemy and “unwind his guts.” Indians did things like that. Years later I read an article about how they caught one man, unwound his guts, nailed them to a tree, and made him walk around the tree until his guts unwound completely and he died.

Indians were notorious for things like that, which is why the Declaration of Independence refers to them as "the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions."

They did such things as take the babies of other tribes and bash their brains out on rocks. Swinging them by their feet.

By the way, all tribes of whatever race did such things, so saying things about what Europeans did is meaningless. I’m well aware of what primitive and savage European tribes did, such as roasting fat babies for food or raping dying women. Savages are called savages for a reason – and I’m glad they’re gone.

I’ve pointed out before when Europeans came to North America they found a mostly empty, incredibly rich land sparely populated by about a million Indians.

I’ve had people tell me there were 20 million Indians here, which is ridiculous. Primitive hunter-gatherer tribes, some of which occasionally grew some corn, can’t support 20 million people, even with a continent this size.

I was raised near Cahokia Mounds in Illinois (I've walked up those stairs on Monks Mound more than once), which had been the largest Indian village in North America – and when Americans discovered it is was already completely empty. All that’s left is a bunch of burial mounds, some of them huge. No one’s quite sure why they deserted the place. And the whole area is still as fertile as can be.

Most of the Indians died from European diseases to which they had no immunity. Smallpox wiped out entire villages. Only a few thousand on each side were killed in combat. And Americans didn’t so much want to wipe them out as turn them into white Christians, which didn’t work. Changing other people’s cultures never works.

As for Mexico, the Aztecs engaged in human sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of people from the tribes they had conquered, and those subjugated tribes supported Cortez when he destroyed the Aztecs. Apparently they were quite tired of having their hearts ripped out while they were still alive.

Mel Gibson’s Apocalypto is very accurate about that, and about how it stopped completely when Europeans landed, bringing Christianity with them.

I don’t exactly understand why some people idealize savages, since they weren’t Rousseau’s Noble Savages. All such primitive tribes are horrors more than anything else. You should read the Old Testament sometime, about how those primitive savage tribes left no one alive, not even the children and animals.

When countries become rich and powerful and safe, suddenly certain people long for a more primitive life. They ignore the loss of dentistry and anesthesia and surgery.

The history of the world has been that when one tribe runs into another, the result historically has been genocide. Which is why it’s obvious there is no such thing as “multiculturalism,” and the more Third World savages we import the more they are going to rape and steal and murder us, until we return the favor and deport or kill them.

And that has been the history of the world.


Anonymous said...

The races differ greatly not just in regards to intellect, but also in behavioral, sociological and psychological traits such as empathy, honesty, conscientiousness, ambition, creativity, cooperativeness, and trust.

Anonymous said...

History is written by the winners. Check out the book Plagues and Peoples by William McNeill for an alternative viewpoint on Aboriginals and plagues.

Unknown said...

Bob humanism is a cult, but its scientism is a cover for its religious aspects. They call you racist for not being a member, and a denier for not being a believer. They have little imagination this inferior enemy. It has copied almost exactly our Christianity. Racism is like Original Sin, and the primitive natives living in "harmony" with nature is their "Eden Story". They believe that natives lived in a paradise where they communed with nature and lived in "sustainable" ways, unlike our ebil waciss Technological Civilization with our morals that deny their perversions and weaknesses.
Humanism is a false religion. The world before the White Man is supposed to be their "Garden of Eden": where "innocent" natives lived "sustainably" with Mother Nature AKA Gaia. Gaia is the human Grandmother of Satan in case you were wondering how she got here. She appears in Greek Myths as the Mother Earth who mates with Ouranus the Sky God. He was on of the fallen angels who made love to human women. The Titans of Greek Mythology were part of the Nephilim or Giants the women gave birth to. There were giants in those days, and mighty men of legend.
It all fits together rather well doesn't it. The primitive savages are the "innocents" of their Garden Story and the White Man is "da debil".

Robert What? said...

Speaking of importing third world savages, I'm trying to figure out who benefits and how they benefit? I refuse to accept that the motivation is because our ersatz rulers care about the migrants. If they don't care about their own citizens, they certainly don't care about third world migrants. In addition they are importing almost exclusively Muslim migrants from Syria, even though Christians are in far greater danger. So what is the rationale? How do our "elites" benefit from this situation? Any thoughts?

Quartermain said...

The late great Dr. David Yeagley had no use for White guilt or White guilt trippers. He despised the term Native American and preferred the term American Indian instead. He loved America and very much loved Christianity.

He was an interesting guy.

Here is an essay from him which is a good read:

Anonymous said...

"I'm trying to figure out who benefits and how they benefit?"

It's you-know-who:

Unknown said...

I used to read David Yeagley's articles some years ago.

little dynamo said...

Few decades back, had a girlfriend in San Francisco who started the Noble American Indian rap, guilting me because as an Evil White Male I stole their land and herded them onto reservations.

I began describing to her the various torture practices of N. American indigenous language-groups -- Iroquois, Huron, western groups like the Apache, etc. Including the utilization of women as torturers, a common native practice.

This woman, about age 30, went into shutdown and REFUSED to believe that her Beautiful, Earth-loving, Noble Native Americans were capable of torturing people, and in fact even enjoying their handiwork. She preferred to believe that I made everything up, and to cling to the 'education' she'd received about native tribes.

Place needs to be spaded under and limed over. Coast to coast.

Robert What? said...


It's you-know-who

You may very well be right, but the sites aren't clear on how the Jews benefit: just that they do.

little dynamo said...

My dog had diarrhea this morning. The Jews put something in his food last night. And I've got a boil under my armpit. Jews. Pretty sure one was in my bedroom closet. My frosted mini-wheats were a little stale today, too. Those (((people))) must have opened the box last nite. Just to spite me.

Oops looks like today's 'con trails' are spreading across the clear blue skies again, now it's all just beige glop. But we know who's behind that. And that's a comforting thought!

Jamie NZ said...

“Indian Chief Two Eagles was asked by a white U.S. government official, “You have observed the white man for 90 years. You’ve seen his wars and his technological advances. You’ve seen his progress, and the damage he’s done.”

The Chief nodded in agreement.

The official continued, “Considering all these events, in your opinion, where did the white man go wrong?”

The Chief stared at the government official then replied,

“When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women do all the work, medicine man free, Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing, all night having sex.”

Then the Chief leaned back and smiled, “Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.”


As far as I'm concerned

Take Me Back Then

Unknown said...

"Including the utilization of women as torturers"

Berger did not come out and say that, but he suggested it by some of the examples in his novel. And I do know that women are not allowed to torture prisoners to get information because they enjoy it too much.

Quartermain said...

Many Indians have a warrior tradition tend to enlist in the military, the Marines usually being the first choice and the Army the second. I'm no expert, but the Indians I knew in the Army were cool. The American Whites and Indians made each other on the world stage. As a Klingon would say we carved legends.

I don't believe in White guilt. It is illogical, irrational, counter-productive, insane, stupid and absolute bullshit. Just be a true blue stand up guy that's all you have to do.

Getting back to Dr. Yeagley, he said that Comanches like to boast that it took the world's mightiest military force to take them down. He also added that if Mexico defeated it would have harder for them to live down.

Take The Red Pill said...

"ray said...
Few decades back, had a girlfriend in San Francisco who started the Noble American Indian rap, guilting me because as an Evil White Male I stole their land and herded them onto reservations..."

I've noticed when those 'caring', 'compassionate' leftists get on their high horse with their Noble Indian/Evil White Man diatribe, how NONE of them are willing to sell or give any of THEIR property to the nearest American Indian tribe and "go back to wherever they came from".