When I was in college I knew guys who were utterly unpopular with women - they spent weekends sitting in their rooms watching TV. They weren't creeps. They just weren't popular.
Yet at the same time I knew women who had no dates because they sat there like bumps on a log and expected Prince Charming to appear out of nowhere and sweep them off their feet. And they were creeps - unpleasant, entitled young women.
I wondered more than once how men and women were supposed to meet each other, get married and have kids. I was mystified by it in college, though not in high school, which was a lot different than college.
I sometimes had this fantasy of feminine foreign women, from Asia and certain parts of Europe and South America, being imported into my college. Several thousand. What would happen?
The American girls would have seizures. All the guys they ignored would suddenly have girlfriends - and those entitled, bump-on-log girls would end up ignored. Even though they didn't want these guys they still didn't want other women to have them. Some sort of envy, obviously. They'd have hissy fits and insult and try to ostracize men who preferred foreign women.
Can you imagine them competing against a woman who can cook? And who likes to keep the place clean? And knit you a cap (which is what this Filipina did for me)?
I once had a woman tell me Asian women were supposed to walk behind men. Now just how unpopular and hostile do you think this woman was?
It's all basic economics, you know.
With excess women men's value goes up. Plus the most unpleasant American women are crowded out of the market. Think of a sort of reverse Gresham's Law: "Good women drive out the bad."
Of course, if this did happen, American women would throw hysterical seizures and demand the government deport these women and never allow anymore in. "Even if we don't want these men no other women should be allowed to have them! They should just be alone and unhappy and like it!"
I've never investigated it, but I'll bet there are women throwing conniption fits about these foreign-bride sites, claiming the women are being exploited by creepy (read lonely) men who have given up on American women, and yet at the same time, they're claiming these foreign women are mercenaries seeking only a green card. Apparently in these women's minds there is no good whatsoever about these foreign women.
Now if you were to import a bunch of foreign men, many American women would claim they're better than American men. Weird.
Actually I'd like to see one foreign woman imported for each overweight, hysterical, unpleasant American woman deported. It'll never happen, but it would be fun wouldn't it?
"Creepy" is just code for being unattractive, lonely, shy or any other trait that selfish and entitled brats decree is undesirable in a man.
You're right about the conniption fits American women would have about the importation of foreign women, Bob. And it has nothing to do with caring about other women. They hate other women, the prideful and envious creatures they are. They just wouldn't want the competition.
"Of course, if this did happen, American women would throw hysterical seizures and demand the government deport these women and never allow anymore in. "Even if we don't want these men no other women should be allowed to have them! They just be alone and unhappy and like it!""
Afraid we're already there. I see it all the Internet, women denouncing men who seek company of foreign women as "sex tourists" etc. Of course, the government has to get in on the act too.
Again, this isn't to protect foreign women, it's to eliminate competition. Don't be surprised if the government starts to create a network of gulags to keep more men from fleeing the country because of these insane laws designed to punish men and serve women only. They can't and won't keep 3rd world parasites out, but because of the screaming shrikes, they'll find a way to keep men in. Whether they like it or not. Scratch that, the men had better like it...or else.
First, how long would it take for those foreign women to adapt to local circumstances by following the worst customs of American women?
Second, no-fault unilateral divorce laws.
"Now if you were to import a bunch of foreign men, many American women would claim they're better than American men." This is already the norm, Bob. Hell it's been that way since the 1960's.
I agree that beautiful foreign women should be imported, and also prostitution should be legalized, taxed and regulated.
I recently read a story on Vox about how 50 Shades is more a fantasy about female laziness than male control. Apparently the gal doesn't have to do anything other than getting exploited by some pyschopath.
Sidenote: Some of those bump on the logs don't have dates because they'll even reject guys that do ask them because they are the 'right kind of Prince Charming'. It's more an epidemic of laziness between the sexes than anything.
As long as the women are White I'm down with it. That said the Filipino people I've met are top notch.
You nailed it Bob. You and your readers might find these two blog posts to be relevant & of interest:
“They can't and won't keep 3rd world parasites out, but because of the screaming shrikes…”
[Laughs] ironic that there are calls to limit immigration…except if they are hot females. Strikingly hypocritical. Listen, the actual truth of the matter is that foreign women will tell you what you want to here just to get to the States. They tell you what you want to hear, how much they love you and want to marry you, so you go over there, marry them, move over here, have another ceremony, make it all legal, and she sends half your check home to her family or gets a full time job and sends all her money home to her family. She doesn't love you, she tolerates you as a means to an end and a meal ticket.
“and also prostitution should be legalized, taxed and regulated.”
In Nevada, yes. Elsewhere in the states? No.
“As long as the women are White I'm down with it.”
Look everyone, Dusty/Rusty/Cheech and Chong found god or whichever name this sockpuppet is using, is still around spilling their weaponized grade autism.
Well, Rusty, there are calls to import foreigners to do jobs "Americans won't do." And since so many American woman aren't doing their jobs...
More imported hot foreign women = More Elliot Rodgerses.
Sure, Dusty, be glad too. Persons of almost completely European biological heritage. This does include most Ashkenazim Jews who have been in Europe for a very long time.
It excludes Roma who are mostly South Asian
Persons from other parts of the world, generally the highest caste in South America and considered as Criollo are also White.
Generally if you say you are White, no one can tell without a genetics tests, come from a a place or area full of White people and you act White , good enough for the US.
White does not include most partially European peoples from the Americas who are a separate race usually called Mestizo or or Middle Easterners or other groups that seem to be Whitish including Persians, some Afghans and high caste Indians
I dunno if women would flip out or not Bob. You yourself once said that women are fascists and socialists by nature (and I agree)...and they are just peachy with stuff like prostitution. Why would they object to foreign women?
I'm asking...seriously. I don't know how North American females think...and sussing their motivations and thought process can be very difficult. Sometimes they just seem to think two contradictory ways at once and expect everyone else to as well...
Glen, a fair number of feminists are basically Orwell's Anti Sex League in the flesh or believe that anything that makes men happy and reduces their market value is anathema to them,
In a society with male choices they don't have a chance and as such will freak out. There were already attempts to limit mail order brides services and the like as LosAngelesKing mentioned.
what they don't understand is that they will lose the fight no matter what, men can't be forced to maintain society or to raise children or to be husbands with any real effect.
without an incentive, no future
This certainly includes the men they use to enforce the laws who have to be aggressive.
In the end, the response to drop-outs tends to be "more immigration" but the immigrants don't play ball and in the end will change society to a more male friendly and anti-women model.
“And since so many American woman aren't doing their jobs...”
[Laughs] Ok, Bobby.
“Persons of almost completely European biological heritage.”
I think Lucy has some ‘splainin to do. You do realize that a number of ethnic groups from Europe were not considered white by nativists America at various points in our history--the Irish, the Italians, the Slavs, and the Greeks, for starters. The Irish were often referred to as “Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish.” Italians were labeled “dark” and condemned as “papists” loyal to a foreign power in Rome. Are you willing to concede that these nativists were decidedly wrong in castigating these European groups, ones that meet your subjective definition of whiteness?
Furthermore, you do comprehend that whiteness was decidedly linked with Protestantism, since settlers of the Thirteen Colonies were generally Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Due to this legacy, Irish and Italian Catholics were not considered ‘white’ due to their supposedly ‘non-white’ religious beliefs. Are you willing to concede that white European Protestants were decidedly wrong in castigating white European Catholics, ones that meet your subjective definition of whiteness?
“Generally if you say you are White, no one can tell without a genetics tests, come from a a place or area full of White people and you act White , good enough for the US.”
So, if one “acts” white, they can be “white”? See, that is a social construct. Your definition is rooted in biology. Can’t have your cake and eat it, too.
“White does not include most partially European peoples from the Americas who are a separate race usually called Mestizo or or Middle Easterners or other groups that seem to be Whitish including Persians, some Afghans and high caste Indians.”
A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics found the majority of the current Mexican population (~93%) is mixed race to some degree, with Y-chromosome (paternal) ancestry of the average Mexican-Mestizo being predominately European (64.9%), followed by Native American (30.8%), and African (4.2%). It would appear that by their metrics they meet the definition of being white. Besides, we all know that Spanish conquistadors fucked natives like rabbits. Since Europeans are naturally superior, their “blood cleansed the dirtiness” of these inferior beings. Why would Europeans otherwise “stoop” to such low levels?
Le Sigh. This silly trope again,
The idea that certain native European groups were not considered White is largely how shall I say, horse-droppings.
A few fringe people held these beliefs including I am told Ben Franklin of all people but it wasn't a common view.
The idea of a generalized Jim Crow for the Irish is also hooey.
That the groups were considered inferior or undesirable and sometimes discriminated against is another thing,
There was a fair amount of that going on mainly over Catholicism and well deserved national reputations.
The Irish for example were the main participants in the most destructive riot in US history, the 1860 draft riot which was ethnic Irish vs Black.
The Irish won BTW handily cleansing NYC of Blacks though in the end the riots were stopped and conscription continued for the Unions indentured slave, err unfairly conscripted army.
At no point were the Black racially considered or thought themselves as part of the Blacks
And Dusty you'd do well with a little less left wing entryism and equalism which isn't going to fly here and with more reading comprehension.
I never stated that race was a social construct and while I can see why you'd think that, its not what I said at all.
In fact I clearly stated "mainly of European ancestry" and stated behavior as a requirement.
As you know behavioral tendencies are deeply rooted in biology, how you will relate, rationally and emotionally is tied to your ethnicity
Your culture will provide a lens and the behavioral rituals of course but looking at and acting White to the degree no one can tell is ample proof of genetic dominance which is what Whiteness is. A massive predominance of European genes with both looks an behavioral modeling.
This is why Whitish people don't qualify, their behavioral matrix will be different.
As for 60%, sure -- its actually about what I thought
Now I live in California and know many Mestizos. Most do not meet the predominance test having lower IQ's (c.f California schools) and higher time preferences than most Caucasians.
Some will meet the standards and 2nd or 3rd generation mixes often do.
Predominately though Mestizos while part White as stated earlier are a separate group with different traits .
All that said even if you were right its still moot,
Right now in 2014 the best policy for the US would be to repatriate as many people as can be (30-50 million would be ideal )
Going forward from there the US would only allow European extracted migrants with good IQ's and health and moral character and a limited number of ultra high IQ types and humanitarian family Visas
If by some means a few Mestizos who meet the cut or half Persians or something slip through? Who cares?
However baring time travelers or alien space bats or something equally unlikely, its not going to happen and the Republic or whats left it it anyway is screwed
Hey, 'Dusty', I can play the same game too:
“and also prostitution should be legalized, taxed and regulated.”
In Nevada, yes. Elsewhere in the states? No.
"No-fault unilateral divorce should be legalized, taxed and regulated."
In California, yes. Elsewhere in the states? No.
How did it go instead, 'Dusty'?
Yawn. Boring troll is boring.
The Irish have always been considered white, just lower-class in the beginning. That's leftist tripe of the kind you see from anti-Christian and anti-white leftist Jews.
“The idea that certain native European groups were not considered White is largely how shall I say, horse-droppings.”
Then you would have been considered a traitor by nativists who had insisted whites were only WASPS, not Europeans in general. How are nativists at that point in time any different than you and your arbitrary position on what constitutes whiteness?
“That the groups were considered inferior or undesirable and sometimes discriminated against is another thing…”
They were considered inferior or undesirable BECAUSE these groups were deemed NOT white.
One need only refer to the political cartoons of Thomas Nast of the 1860’s and 1870’s as undeniable evidence that the Irish were “white niggers”.
“A few fringe people held these beliefs including I am told Ben Franklin of all people but it wasn't a common view.”
The American Party, formed in 1854, was predicated on keeping out those not deemed “white enough”. Its ideology drove future American immigration policies.
In the 1890’s, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge argued need for literacy tests and its implication on the new immigrants deemed “not white enough”: “It is found, in the first place, that the illiteracy test will bear most heavily upon the Italians, Russians, Poles, Hungarians, Greeks, and Asiatics, and lightly, or not at all, upon English-speaking emigrants, or Germans, Scandinavians, and French. In other words, the races most affected by the illiteracy test are those whose emigration to this country has begun within the last twenty years and swelled rapidly to enormous proportions, races with which the English speaking people have never hitherto assimilated, and who are most alien to the great body of the people of the United States.”
The KKK had its membership peak in the 1920’s with roughly four million members strong and comprising of nearly 20% of the adult male white population; “dark” whites were held in particular disdain.
Congress passed an immigration law in 1924 that made it more difficult for Southern and Eastern Europeans to gain entry into the United States, with the underlying sentiment being that these “undesirables could not properly assimilate into the white mainstream culture”.
“The Irish for example were the main participants in the most destructive riot in US history, the 1860 draft riot which was ethnic Irish vs Black.”
It was July 1863, not 1860. There were a myriad of factors for the riots, one of which was racial tension. There was also social class conflict that underscored this event. Please educate yourself.
“I never stated that race was a social construct and while I can see why you'd think that, its not what I said at all.”
On one hand, if one acts white, they are white. That is what you stated. In other words, a person is white if they behave in a prescribed manner, which is definitive social construct. On the other hand, you said that white is “nearly almost completely European biological heritage.” There is a disconnect there, one that clearly escapes you.
“Predominately though Mestizos while part White…”
63% is NOT part white. Mestizos are majority white. Indeed, ”mainly of European ancestry”. And if they act white, as you claim, then they are white.
“As you know behavioral tendencies are deeply rooted in biology how you will relate, rationally and emotionally is tied to your ethnicity”
You are making a generalization here. Environment and individual personality traits also play fundamental roles. But, based on your metric, then it is undeniable that whites have generally sought to destroy non-whites…while desiring to have sex with them.
“Right now in 2014 the best policy for the US would be to repatriate as many people as can be (30-50 million would be ideal)”
Your suggestion is mental masturbation.
“The Irish have always been considered white, just lower-class in the beginning.”
Nativists are CONSERVATIVE, Bobby.
“How did it go instead, ‘Dusty’?”
Great. If you desire no-fault unilateral divorce, contact your local legislator.
Personally, I don't believe in any political /economic ideology beyond what's good for the average American, and I don't care about policy consistency in achieving that. What would be good for the average man right now would be several million visas for Ukrainian women.
For the record, I'm not Dusty Meckleford or C&C Found God. Dusty popped up after an exchange with C&C. I'm pleased that I annoyed him enough to influence his choice of a new name.
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