Friday, August 29, 2014

On "Raping" Women

"Woman is finally jailed after five false rape allegations against her ex-boyfriends in eight years" - Mail Online

Women are notorious for filing false rape charges. Let's take Mike Tyson, who is a moron. He didn't rape anyone. The problem is that he didn't call her the next day. And the purpose of his bodyguards was not to keep the men away, but the women. And yet this "Alpha" went to prison for years.

For that matter, there is no "rape culture" in the U.S. except among blacks, and in Europe, among Muslims raping white girls. In colleges? Not even close.

When I was about 21 I read an article which said that the FBI had decided that 90% of women's rape accusations were false. I had a hard time believing that, so I asked my mother, who was the night admitting clerk at the local ER.

"90% of them are false," she told me.

I've always remembered that.

Years later, at a place I was working, my boss came by and told me a woman had claimed I was sexually harassing her. I was mystified. He wouldn't tell me who she was, but someone else did.

It was a woman who had been trying to get involved with me, but I wasn't interested, so she claimed I was harassing her. It was all fantasy.

A few years after that, I was working at another place when my manager, who was my friend more than boss, told me a women there had complained he was "sexually harassing" her.

This guy was very good-looking and very popular with women.

I knew the woman he was talking about. I told him she had a crush on him, and told him my story. He looked shocked and said, "My father said the same thing, that she had a crush on me!"

A year or so later, he moved to another company, and I lost track of him. But I few years after that, I encountered a woman who knew both of us. I asked what happened to him.

She told me a woman had been put in charge of this guy, and soon after fired him because he would not get involved with her. And he was, you know, an "Alpha." And he lost his job.

But, but, but - these things don't happen to "Alphas"!

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." And that includes those "Alphas."

The Manosphere has a lot of goofy ideas, such as "Alphas" don't get rape or sexual harassment charges filed against them, because only "Betas" do. Alphas and Betas don't exist, not in way the denizens think, and "Alphas" (sic) certainly do get charges filed against them.

In fact, they get a lot more charges than "Betas."

All these new college policies about rape are going to do a few things: the more popular men (the misnamed "Alphas") will have more complaints filed against them, while the real "Dark Triad" (sic) rapists won't be deterred at all.

As if often the case, the Manosphere gets it backward.

"Any honest veteran sex assault investigator will tell you that rape is one of the most falsely reported crimes that there is." - Sex crimes prosecutor Craig Silverman

18 comments:

de ti said...

Bob:

For every anecdote you have, I can see it and raise it.

I knew one very good looking guy who was a high school teacher. He screwed his way through the single female faculty without incident.

I knew another very good looking guy who is a lawyer. He screwed his way through the secretarial pool AND the single female lawyers, without incident. At that same place, a not-so-good looking, bit more tentative lawyer approached a cute secretary. Written up and reprimanded for sexual harassment. He quit a couple of years later.

I know one not so good looking guy, but has a dominant personality and is muscular and works out. He’s a physician. Gets laid like tile. Never accused of any problems.

I know another lawyer who went through a bad divorce. Got a little depressed, started drinking too much. He was a pretty nice guy, but not good looking or terribly dominant. His soon to be ex wife accused him of molesting their 3 year old daughter. He’s doing 10 years now.

So I don’t agree with your claim that “alphas” get “caught” and accused of sex crimes and sex harassment. I think it’s bogus. The only ones who get “caught” and suffer consequences are the ones who actually care about consequences.

Bob Wallace said...

To stay out of the doghouse, bury the bone at home.

These guys are playing with fire.

The last guy I knew who did the things you mentioned got blown off of his motorcycle. His killer got life.

I live in the real world.

The real world is where my cousin got 40 years for killing a man seeing his girlfriend.

The real world is where a friend I've know since I was born died from a beating for seeing the wrong woman.

Or a friend who got his jaw broken for seeing the wrong woman.

That's the difference between the Real World and the Fantasy World.

de ti said...

I live in the real world, too. And in the real world, confident, dominant men get laid, when and where they want. They also get paid and live above the rules that apply to everyone else.


Maybe this sounds like butthurt, maybe not. It really isn't. It just is so, it's the way society is set up now. It is what it is, and it's what I see, and it's what happens.

Bob Wallace said...

I live in a world where guys get killed for seeing the wrong women. I also live in a world where I slept with 36 women and once got in a fight with some psycho in a men's room (because he thought I was seeing his girlfriend) - and he was trying to kill me, and would have done it, being much larger than me - when my relatives burst and stopped it.

These fools are playing with fire.

The Manosphere knows nothing of these things. They have comic book fantasies of "Alpha" and "Beta," and I laugh.

Ras Al Ghul said...

False rape claims are as old as the story of Joseph in the Bible where the master's wife accused him of it falsely.

There is a very legitimate reason that women were viewed as poor witnesses in the past.

Feather Blade said...

And in the real world, confident, dominant men get laid, when and where they want.

What you aren't seeing is that when these dominant men don't want to get laid, the women who want to lay them will attempt blackmail in order to make the men submit.

In that case it is the men who don't refuse intercourse that are submitting themselves to women.

I guarantee you that the good-looking men you mentioned above, had they suddenly stopped sleeping around, would have been slapped with a sexual harassment claim from the ones they hadn't banged quicker than one can say "No Fair!"

...much like the kind of man who complains when a slut won't give it up for him, come to think of it.

Guess men and women aren't so different after all.

Giraffe said...

I think you are both right. Alphas get more women. Most of the time they get away with it.

But you only have to not get away with it once.

Bob Wallace said...

"What you aren't seeing is that when these dominant men don't want to get laid, the women who want to lay them will attempt blackmail in order to make the men submit."

That is EXACTLY right. I never see this in the Manosphere, that if you don't want to get involved with them, they will try to get you fired, they will lie and try to get you beaten up, they will try to get you arrested. If they can, they'll ruin your lives and not give a damn. Including "Alphas."


But, no, "Alphas" lead perfect lives, untouched by the bad things women do.

It's all a bunch of bullshit.

Glen Filthie said...

Mike Tyson was a feral negro that fought like an animal and he probably f***ed like one too.

I have no problems at all believing that boy was a rapist. He may have been a moron ... but so were the women that went with him

de ti said...

"What you aren't seeing is that when these dominant men don't want to get laid, the women who want to lay them will attempt blackmail in order to make the men submit."

"if you don't want to get involved with them, they will try to get you fired, they will lie and try to get you beaten up, they will try to get you arrested. If they can, they'll ruin your lives and not give a damn. Including "Alphas.""

I call BS. Never seen it, ever. Roosh talks about this -- he just walks away.

I think it's just BS that some good looking guy gets hit with a false rape claim in today's environment because he WOULDN'T sleep with a girl (Potiphar's wife notwithstanding -- different time, different place). I 've worked in all sorts of environments.

Bob Wallace said...

You can't walk away at work, you can't walk away if they stalk you, and you can't walk away if some guy blind-sides you and breaks your jaw.

There is a reason that in all mythologies women are the ones that bring evil into the world.

I know guys like Roosh. They lie and they see whores.

Anonymous said...

"Never seen it, ever."

You don't see it unless it happens to you. An "Alpha" is not going to brag about it.

Casanova was a real person. I read somewhere that after the first dozen conquests, he lost his aggressiveness and "the ladies chased him more than he chased them." He escaped to Bohemia in ruined health, where he called his life "despicable" and considered suicide. There was no smile on his face when he died alone.

Tao Evadendi said...

On "Yes Means Yes", from a feminist website:

"The next step, it seems to me, is expanding this standard beyond college campuses to (at least) all civil law suits for sexual assault. Hopefully the California law passes and serves as an example not only for other campus-specific legislation but a shift in our national legal understanding of gender-based violence."

Parents, you better teach your sons well and you had better do this teaching in a way they won’t soon forget. The implications of this legislation going mainstream is that a man can be accused of rape any time under any circumstances. If he can't prove consent, then bye bye to his life. Expect male suicide rates to jump in the near future. This legislation will result in massive increases in men being falsely accused of rape for purposes of vengeance. If you think false domestic violence and false harassment claims are life destroying, wait until this one goes mainstream.

Don't forget, this is a treasure trove for lawyer's and fraudulent litigant's bank accounts. Read the Brian Banks story if you don't believe me.

Teach your sons well folks, or they’ll suffer life destroying consequences as a result of ignorance and naiveté. In the near future, ever more misandric laws and policies will be pushed and passed. This is already happening globally.

Having relationships with women, more and more, represents playing Russian roulette, with each year that passes representing an additional bullet in the cylinder. The cylinder is already half loaded.

Women want what they want, gents. If you’re the target of their affections and you reject them, expect to pay for it in some way. Women have no problem destroying men’s lives when they don’t get what they want. When you think of women, think of the words “princess, entitled, ruthless, and venomous” (PERV).

"Yes Means Yes" is just another way for women to destroy men's lives when they don't get what they want. In other words, if you sleep with her, you better damn well be willing to buy her a house.

Time to wake up.

Tao Evadendi said...

What you need to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NscI4FcFGg

Bob Wallace said...

That is one drunk girl.

Tao Evadendi said...

"Bob Wallace said...

That is one drunk girl."

I know, right?! The important part to remember in this video is this: Even though she was blind drunk, she inherently knew to falsely accuse the driver (a man). She knew to shed all responsibility for her actions in the hopes of placing all blame on the actual, potential victim. Ya gotta love cell phones with video cams. Without the video, he could have been convicted of assault, attempted murder, etc.

There's another video like this in which a woman falsely accuses a cab driver of rape. He recorded the incident, which saved his butt. The woman in the video (also drunk) wanted sex from the cabbie, but he refused because he was married. The one thing you don't do in this world without video surveillance is refuse a woman her advances.

Hell hath no wrath.

Bob Wallace said...

I read the actor Ray Milland's autobiography some years ago. He of course had many women after him. One he turned down, when she saw him on the street pretending to be drunk for his role in "Lost Weekend," gave him a look of pure triumph.

For that matter, my father was very popular with women. He told me he was standing in McDonalds one time, 35 years after he turned down one woman, and she pointed at his head (his hair was gone) and cackled in public.

After 35 years.

Tao Evadendi said...

"I read the actor Ray Milland's autobiography some years ago. He of course had many women after him. One he turned down, when she saw him on the street pretending to be drunk for his role in "Lost Weekend," gave him a look of pure triumph.

For that matter, my father was very popular with women. He told me he was standing in McDonalds one time, 35 years after he turned down one woman, and she pointed at his head (his hair was gone) and cackled in public.

After 35 years."

Yup. That's how things work in reality. There is nothing that pleases a woman more than the sight of a defeated former flame. The higher the level of defeat, the more giddy she'll become.

It's the same as saying, "See! He's nothing without me! Look at that loser!" The fact that she's had her carpet and drapes died, is caked with makeup and has had several rounds of plastic surgery won't even enter her mind.