Wednesday, April 16, 2014

"20 Identifiable Traits of a Female Narcissist"

This was written by Susan Walsh and is from her site. I've heard her referred to as "Aunt Giggles" yet she does have many good articles about relationships on her site - something that is missing in the more popular sites in the "Manosphere."

I have run across narcissistic women. They do overrate their attractiveness. Even the skanks do it. They overdress. They imagine criticism when it's not there. They become hysterical when they think they are devalued and will try to destroy that person's life. They're fives who think they deserve 10s when it comes to men. They blame all their problems on other people, especially men. When they become middle-aged their lives collapse.

I've seen several women in their late 50s who put on their make-up with a paint roller and spent a lot of money on clothes. The worst I ever saw was a woman in her middle 70s who wore a miniskirt and go-go boots, like it was 1966. And this was more like 2007 (she also knifed her wealthy husband to death, put a nick on her arm, hid in the closet - and somehow got away with it).

People sometimes try to tell me narcissists have high "self-esteem." No, they don't. They have a fake, superficial charm and self-confidence covering up the gaping void that is their Self. The same applies to those who think they understand the "Dark Triad." Fake, superficial charm and self-confidence disguising crushing feelings of security and humiliation. That's what it really is.


"In the discussion following a recent post about one woman’s iPhone infidelity, Mike asked:

"Just curious, you had the post on this is what good guys look like and red flags for bad guys, I’d be interested if you have a comparable list on how to identify the red flags for bad girls who are likely to behave like the woman here.

"That’s a fair question, and as I’ve been thinking it over I’ve found that applying the same standards women use doesn’t really work. Women are attracted to men for a whole host of reasons, and struggle with the question of how to read a guy’s intentions. We don’t want to have sex too soon and lose his respect, but we don’t want to hold out so long that he seeks satisfaction elsewhere. For women, it’s critical to observe a man’s character over a period of time to assess his willingness to enter into a committed relationship.

"Character is very important in women too, but men are primarily drawn to women via physical attraction. Their interest in a woman is immediate upon seeing her, and she may wield considerable power over him based on her sexual attractiveness. Women are generally willing to enter relationships, but men worry about finding out down the road that a woman was not who he thought. How can a man verify a woman’s character quickly, so that he doesn’t get caught up in a relationship with a woman who is unlikely to be monogamous over the long-term?

"If a man avoids one thing in a woman, he will increase his chances of long-term happiness a thousand fold:

Female Narcissism

"It used to be that the word narcissist wasn’t thrown around lightly. We saved it for sociopaths and historical figures like Machiavelli and Napoleon. Female examples were rare, and generally found in fiction: Rebecca of the Daphne Du Maurier novel, Gloria Swanson as Norma Desmond in the 1950 film Sunset Boulevard. In its worst form it is a diagnosable personality disorder (NPD), and historically, 75% of those diagnosed with NPD have been male. However, researchers who have recently studied narcissistic personality traits in the American population say it’s an epidemic, increasing just as fast as obesity since the 1980s, and that much of the growth comes from women. Twenge and Campbell, authors of The Narcissism Epidemic, studied 37,000 college students (2006) in an effort to understand modern levels of self-involvement:

"1. In 1982, just 15% of college kids scored high on the Narcissistic Personality Inventory, but that number has risen to 25%, largely due to a greater number of narcissistic women.

"2. In the 1950s, just 12% of respondents agreed with the statement, 'I am an important person.' By the 1980s, 80% felt special.

"3. In 1967, 45% of American students felt that 'Being well off is an important life goal.' By 2004, 74% agreed with that statement.

"4. Nearly 10% of 20-somethings are thought to have NPD, and it’s estimated that 26% of people now in their twenties will have developed NPD by the age of 65.

Women narcissists often are diagnosed with the subset Histrionic Personality Disorder:

"A personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious.

"They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others. Associated features may include egocentrism, self-indulgence, continuous longing for appreciation, feelings that are easily hurt, and persistent manipulative behavior to achieve their own needs.

"Female narcissists focus more heavily on physical appearance that male narcissists. They often overestimate their own attractiveness, and focus on displaying or flaunting physical attributes. Scientists think there may be a link between narcissism and anorexia or bulimia.

"In summary, female narcissists see their lives as a running feature film with them in the lead, receiving accolades at all times. Women narcissists in their 30s and 40s who are unhappily single will generally blame their unpartnered state on being too independent, feisty, strong-minded, intimidating and intelligent for most men. They have little self-awareness.

"What Caused the Narcissism Epidemic?

"There is far less social pressure to demonstrate character than in past generations. Daughters who once would have been disciplined for spoiled behavior are now allowed to dictate the dinner menu, or veto a family move.

"The self-esteem movement, which was intended to create happy, friendly children, produced a generation of kids who filled their rooms with 'Participant' trophies and congratulated themselves for showing up. In fact, Twenge and Campbell found that 30% of students felt that they should get good grades just for attending class. Indeed, grade inflation at the country’s best universities is a serious problem, and Cornell West was rumored to have regularly given all A’s in his course at Harvard.

"During the 1960s, the core American value of individualism began to morph into self-admiration. The human potential movement stressed introspection and self-improvement, intending self-actualization. However, the concept of self-esteem became a shortcut to the hard work of real personal change.

"During the 70S and 80s, Americans became obsessed with celebrity culture, and eating disorders skyrocketed.

"Today, social media breeds narcissism by constantly encouraging women to post flattering photos, and create online profiles that stress their uniqueness. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube all require self-promotion, bringing out the narcissist in us. Reality shows promote the most ordinary, unimpressive people as special, and we follow their dysfunctional lives with fascination.

"As Twenge and Campbell point out, when I was growing up, it was normal to hear the following kinds of remarks from parents:

"'Who do you think you are?'

"'Just wait until your father gets home!'

"'Because I said so, that’s why.'

"My generation became parents and flipped the script. We justified our decisions at great length when our children disagreed with us. We gave up our own interests to spend hours building Lego structures with our kids or ensuring that our little soccer player got all the development she would need to get recruited to play in college someday. Psychologists used to believe that narcissism resulted from emotional damage in childhood at the hands of cold, neglectful parents. However, the data has never supported that theory, and now it’s widely accepted that narcissism grows from inflated feedback. American parents want super-achieving children, and we’ve insisted we have them, even if we have to create the fiction. Instead, we’ve created a generation of Special Little Snowflakes.

"Hooking Up And Narcissism

"Twenge and Campbell believe that hookups, FWBs and other no-strings relationships are a manifestation of the narcissism epidemic. Hooking up is considered a selfish act, in that it is about self-satisfaction rather than generosity toward another person. When couples do commit to a relationship, they often continue to wrestle for the upper hand, and relationships are often characterized by lack of emotion, antisocial attitudes and an emphasis on physical appearance. In addition, parents pressure their children to achieve, claiming that 'love can wait.' That adds to the appeal, at least in the short-term, of no-strings sexual relationships.

“'It changes what is normal behavior in dating,' says Campbell, referring to the hookup culture among youth that has left modern-day parents wringing their hands. According to Campbell and Twenge, the rise of the hookup culture and narcissism rates had a convergent evolution—a link they see as significant. “'One of the hallmarks of a narcissist is short-term relationships that don’t require a lot of emotional investment,' says Campbell. Adds Twenge: 'The current trend right now, especially among younger people, is that ‘I’m going to focus on myself, not on forging an emotionally close relationship.’

"Hannah Seligson’s article Do Narcissists Have Better Sex? for The Daily Beast makes another observation:

"In fact, narcissism, even in small doses, has shifted courtship into a high-stakes relationship culture. Now that people think more highly of themselves, expectations of what a relationship should be like have skyrocketed into the realm of superlatives. Twentysomethings not only expect to waltz into high-level career positions right out of college, they also expect partners who have the moral fortitude of Nelson Mandela, the comedic timing of Stephen Colbert, the abs of Hugh Jackman, and the hair of Patrick Dempsey.

"How to Identify a Female Narcissist

Physical Appearance

"She dresses provocatively, flaunting sexually suggestive body parts.

"She focuses attention on makeup and hair, even for the most mundane tasks or events.

"She is overly confident about her looks. Research shows that narcissists are no more attractive than other people, but they believe they are much better looking than other women.

"She places high value on brand names, and feels entitled to wear 'the best.' She frequently purchases new clothing, and does not distinguish between wants and needs.

"She is more likely to have plastic surgery, most commonly breast augmentation.

"She enjoys being photographed, and often asks others to snap her picture. She enthusiastically shares the best pics of herself on Facebook or other social media sites. She will sometimes invest in a professional photographer for a portrait that she uses on Facebook or for online dating.

"Personality/Character

"She insists on being the center of attention, and is often the most charming person in the room. Narcissists are very outgoing and excel at marketing themselves.

"She often seeks favorable treatment, and automatic compliance. She believes that she is special, and that she deserves fame, fortune, success and happiness.

"She is highly materialistic.

"She is prone to envy, though she presents as supremely confident. She seeks opportunities to undermine others, and enjoys sharing confidences about how the two of you are better than others.

"She is convinced that others are envious and jealous of her, and often uses this excuse for her lack of real, intimate friendships. When her friends enjoy successes of their own, she finds ways to punish them by downplaying their achievements.

"She lacks empathy, and even common courtesy at times. She puts others down, including you. She does not hesitate to exploit others.

"She is very competitive.

"She believes that she is intellectually superior to her peers.

"She blames others for problems. Narcissists don’t believe that they make mistakes, and lack the ability to process shame.

"She displays a haughty attitude when she lets her guard down or is confronted. She will act impatient, arrogant and condescending. She will often excuse her own shortcomings by claiming that others are pressuring her or expecting too much of her.

"She is dishonest and often lies to get what she wants. She will never admit this.

"She is 'psycho:' She engages in risky behaviors, has an addictive personality, and is prone to aggressive behavior when rejected. (Note: This is most common with Histrionic Personality Disorder.)

"She is unpredictable in her moods and actions. You have trouble figuring out what she wants and where you stand.

"She is capable of short-term regret, and will apologize profusely if backed into a corner. However, she will quickly rationalize her behavior and return to narcissistic patterns.

"A woman doesn’t need to have all 20 of these traits to make a lousy relationship partner. If you can check off even a few of these characteristics, you should head for the hills at 60 mph. The six traits related to physical appearance should be apparent immediately, or within a short time of meeting.

"Narcissistic personality traits can be difficult to detect at first. Narcissists always make a strong showing right out of the gate, and it takes time for them to reveal their negative qualities. They will only do so when feeling threatened or that they are not receiving 'their due' in some way.

"Based on the women of all ages I have known in my life, I think 10% is an accurate estimate of the number of narcissists in the female population. That’s a lot of women who could make you miserable if you’re not careful.

"Please don’t date one. I beg you not to fall in love with one. And never, ever marry one."

5 comments:

Ras Al Ghul said...

10% of women, assuming a 50/50 split, and that's not always the case.

plus 4% of women are borderlines.

plus a couple percentage points for bipolar.

1% are straight up antisocials.

we'll leave out depression.

and those last numbers are the conservative estimates.

so 17% of the female population minimum will make your life hell.

1 in 5 chicks.

I suspect its closer to 1 in 3 or even 1 in 2.

so the average guy with a notch count of 5 or 6 is looking at least on psycho

Bob Wallace said...

I'd say about 25% of women verge on being lunatics.

I suspect the problem is lack of home, husband and children. It literally drives them crazy, and they can't even identify the problem.

James said...

Hey bob. I commented before saying I was a man with many narcissistic tendencies, and that I've been changing to eliminate those traits and to change. I've apologized to many people in my life and am trying to fix things with them. Like Zaccheus the tax collector in the Bible, he gave back 4 times the amount he did wrong. So I've been trying to do good, not only nice, in the lives of people around me because I've done a lot of bad to them as well.

But what helped me a lot is that a close friend called me out on it, in addition to seeing your many posts on the subject. So thanks for doing that part. It is not easy to look at yourself through the perspective of other people (at least for me) and see that I am objectively or subjectively harming them.

Bob Wallace said...

I once told a woman, "My narcissism runs rampant," and she laughed. Apparently it's true.

I'm glad to be of service to you.

Wraith said...

Women narcissists often are diagnosed with the subset Histrionic Personality Disorder:

"A personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious.


That just described the entire Left--regardless of gender.