Friday, June 5, 2015

"Yo, dudes: Alpha males are a myth, according to actual experts on wolves"

This was written by David Futrelle..

Yes, I know Futrelle is a nut, but even a nut can occasionally be right. A blind pig finding an acorn? A stopped clock occasionally being right?

The first time I ever heard someone call himself an "alpha" was the lowlife omega Ted Nugent, who consistently referred to himself as one long before there was an internet. The context in which he called himself one was during a race, in which he blew up his dune buggy and not only didn't win the race...he didn't even finish it. What an obnoxious moron.

And now we have the weirdo Roosh making what appear to be homosexualish comments about the Manosphere being his "seed." Sheesh. I called him for what he is years ago, along with Roissy and Vox Day.

This article is from the site We Hunted the Mammoth.


Manosphere misogynists like to tell themselves fairy tales about women. Their favorite such tale, repeated endlessly, is one called “The Cock Carousel” – sometimes referred to in expanded form as the “Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel” or the “Bad Boy Cock Carousel.” (Hence that Rooster-riding gal you see in this blog’s header about half the time.)

Despite the different names, the story is always, monotonously, the same: In their late teens and twenties, when they’re at the height of their sexual appeal, women (or at least the overwhelming majority of them) have sex in rapid succession with an assortment of charismatic but unreliable alpha males and “bad boys” who make their vaginas (or just ‘ginas) tingle. Then, sometime in their mid-to-late twenties, these women “hit the wall,” with their so-called sexual market value (or SMV) dropping faster than Facebook’s stock price. As Roissy/Heartiste puts it, in his typically overheated prose:

So sad, so tragic, the inevitable slide into sexual worthlessness that accompanies women, the withering tick tock of the cosmic clock stripping their beauty in flayed bits of soulletting mignons like psychological ling chi. A sadistic thief in the night etching, billowing, draping and sagging a new affront to her most preciously guarded asset.

While many women try to pretend they’ve still “got it,” even at the ripe old age of thirty, they inevitably have to either get off or get thrown off the “cock carousel.” At this point the more savvy women glom onto some convenient “beta male” who, while somewhat lacking in sexual appeal, will at least be a good husband and provider for them – and in many cases the children they’ve had with alpha male seed. Those women who don’t accept the new reality are destined to end up alone and childless, surrounded by cats.

To borrow the phrase "South Park' used in its episodes about Scientology and Mormonism, this is what manosphere men actually believe. Not only that, but they claim that this fairy tale is based on real science.

So who are these mysterious alpha males that get the women so excited? As one guide to pickup artist (PUA) lingo puts it:

In animal hierarchies, the Alpha Male is the most dominant, and typically the physically strongest member of the group. For example, in wolf packs, the “alpha wolf” is the strongest member of the pack, and is the leader of the group. This position of leadership is often achieved by killing or defeating the previous Alpha Male in combat. Alpha wolves have first access to food as well as mating privileges with the females of the pack.

Social status among human social groups is less rigidly defined than in the animal kingdom, but there are some recognizable parallels. Although people don’t often engage in physical violence to achieve dominance, there are still recognizable leaders in different fields who have wide access to material resources and women.

Because the qualities of the Alpha Male (such as social dominance and leadership) are attractive to women, many PUAs have adopted these ideals as models of emulation. In fact, the term “alpha” has come be shorthand for the qualities of an attractive man, and it is a common refrain among PUAs to be “more alpha” or to “out alpha” competitors.

There’s a certain logic to all this. But unfortunately for the PUAs and other manospherians the notion of the Alpha male is based on bad science. The notion of Alpha dominance, as the definition above notes, came originally from studies of wolf packs. Even if we assume that wolf behavior is somehow a good model upon which to base our understanding of human romance – as manosphere men and evolutionary psychologists tend to do – the science behind the Alpha male wolf has now come completely undone, with many of those who promulgated the theory in the first place decades ago now explicitly repudiating it.

The problem, you see, is that the studies underlying the notion of the alpha male wolf, who aggressively asserts his dominance over beta males in order to rule the pack, were all based on observations of wolves in captivity. In the real world, wolf packs don’t work that way at all. Most wolf packs are basically wolf families, with a breeding pair and their pups. When male pups reach adulthood, they don’t fight their fathers for dominance — they go out and start their own families.

As noted wolf behavior expert L. David Mech, one of those who helped to establish and popularize the notion of the alpha wolf in the first place, explains on his website:

The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history.

One of the outdated pieces of information is the concept of the alpha wolf. “Alpha” implies competing with others and becoming top dog by winning a contest or battle. However, most wolves who lead packs achieved their position simply by mating and producing pups, which then became their pack. In other words they are merely breeders, or parents, and that’s all we call them today, the “breeding male,” “breeding female,” or “male parent,” “female parent,” or the “adult male” or “adult female.” In the rare packs that include more than one breeding animal, the “dominant breeder” can be called that, and any breeding daughter can be called a “subordinate breeder.”

So the dominant male wolves – those whom manosphere dudes would still call the alphas – achieve this position not by being sexy badasses but simply by siring and taking responsibility for pups. To use the terminology in the manner of manosphere dudes, alphas become alphas by acting like betas. That’s right: alphas are betas. (For more of the details, see this paper by Mech; it’s in pdf form.)

Also, they’re wolves and not humans, but that’s a whole other kettle of anthropomorphized fish.

14 comments:

Mindstorm said...

How is it decided which wolves mate and which don't? Caring for pups is secondary in the temporal sense. Gorillas have a similar system.

Earl Thomas said...

'The context in which he called himself one was during a race, in which he blew up his dune buggy and not only didn't win the race...he didn't even finish it.'

'Alphas' like to brag about how well they can destroy things and think they are powerful because of it for some reason.

Earl Thomas said...

I imagine the whole idea of boys saying they are alpha because they can plunder the lowest form of women is probably a cover for the envy they have for actual decent fathers who have families. Men who found a women worthy to be the mother of their children and created a family as such. Calling them beta and such when they have no clue what it means to be a father.

Anonymous said...

OK Bob this is your 28th post on this topic. I get it your definition of Alpha is someone who smash someone in the head with a pool stick with out any thought. In place of Alpha Beta Omega what do you propose as an easy identifiable alternative for the unequal distribution of sex among males in society.

The Obvious said...

"what do you propose as an easy identifiable alternative for the unequal distribution of sex among males in society"

Does there have to be a term?

Bob Wallace said...

"who smash someone in the head with a pool stick."

That reminds me: I know a guy who got into a fight with his brother in a bar, who hit him with a pool stick, so this guy (whose name, I swear, was Bobby Joe) popped his own brother's eye out of its socket.

"as an easy identifiable alternative for the unequal distribution of sex among males in society."

How about "one of those sleazy guys who lies to unattractive women so he can lay 100+ of them." That's been my experience without exception.

Anonymous said...

"In place of Alpha Beta Omega what do you propose as an easy identifiable alternative for the unequal distribution of sex among males in society."

Everything is distributed unequally. We don't make up names for the distribution. The situation reminds me of the famous line from Citizen Kane: "It's no trick to make a lot of money; if what you want to do is make a lot of money." The saying holds true for most everything else in life as well.

Earl Thomas said...

It was explained before but it seems you have to be a perpetual liar to be good at pick up artistry and having sex with lots of women. Flip side is an article makes the claim that testosterone is like a truth serum. So could a general partaking in degeneracy make a man lower his T levels? And could virtue raise them?

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/study-testosterone-is-truth-serum/263515/

Bob Wallace said...

'Everything is distributed unequally'

I suppose you could use the bell curve, which i think is the Gaussian distribution. I may be wrong because I'm really rusty on my statistics.

DeNihilist said...

Hmm, seems ole Bonecrckr was about right. If we want to do the Greek style.

Funny aside. The Dog Whisperer goes on about being Alpha, for which he is taken to task for always by the clicker group of trainers. When I read about the way the alpha male was first proposed, with captive wolves, brought together from different packs, and how in most wild packs, this term does not apply, all I could think was "well don't we as humans bring dogs together from different "packs" so obviously this alpha male thing is actually right in this circumstance"

Crickets chirping....

Anonymous said...

Culture Wars, neocons and Kumbaya Christianity

At the Politically Incorrect Australian:

http://anotherpoliticallyincorrectblog.blogspot.com/2015/06/culture-wars-neocons-and-kumbaya.html

Bob Wallace said...

"well don't we as humans bring dogs together from different "packs" so obviously this alpha male thing is actually right in this circumstance"

This is one of the best arguments against multiculturalism. After all, whites are alphas, Asians are betas, Mexicans are I don't yet know and blacks are omegas.

Anonymous said...



In defense of evolutionary psychology:

http://therationalmale.com/2015/06/09/in-defense-of-evo-psych/

Bob Wallace said...

"The Rational (sic) Male" is in the same category as Roissy and Roosh.