Wednesday, March 26, 2014

"Idealized, Devalued, Dumped, Discarded"

Some years ago I read an article that pointed out almost all of the famous feminists of the '60s and '70s wanted romance in their lives - but they demanded a tall, good-looking, rich, brilliant man. Of course, they never found him, because such men don't exist.

These women are narcissists - they either idealize men or devalue them.

The "feminists" of today are the same way - emotionally warped. I read of one a few weeks ago (whose name I do not remember) who spoke of her "freaking wonderful husband." This was a promiscuous woman who admitted she never had an orgasm, and even slept with a porn star - not surprisingly, she was completely disappointed.

I doubt her husband is really "freaking wonderful," since this "feminist" went from devaluing men to idealizing her husband. Soon, she will devalue her husband.

Feminism, as everyone with half a brain knows, is based on the envy and devaluation of men. However, if Brad Pitt, with the brain of Albert Einstein and a dick like John Holmes ever showed up, they wouldn't devalue him.

At first. Later, they would. That's what narcissists do. Poor things can't help themselves.

Men have the same problem with idealization and devaluation. That's where the concept of the Madonna and the Whore came from.

In one of the many things the Manosphere gets wrong, it has decided that "Alphas" devalue women as gold-digging sluts, and "Betas" idealize them and put them on a pedestal - and an "Alpha" is the ideal of what a man is supposed to be.

This splitting is to take away the power that some men think women have over them. This is the reason, as I have mentioned before, why some of the Manosphere is based on the envy of women, just as feminism is based on the envy of men.

Someone who is a devalued weakling can have no power over you. When you idealize them they hold your happiness in their hands, because you consider them superior to you.

With this narcissistic splitting, all problems are projected on the devalued. It's called scapegoating, or Projection, and is considered to be the first defense everyone engages in. Children are notorious for it.

Just as feminism's projection of all problems on men is the fatal flaw of feminism, this same splitting is the fatal flaw of the Manosphere.

It's why, as I pointed out before, there are no "Alphas" and "Betas." They're comic-book concepts. All men are a combination of "Alpha," "Beta," "Sigma" "Gamma" and "Omega," and any man who denies this is self-deluded and lying to himself. It's an attempt to defend his "self-esteem."

Supposedly "Alphas" get all the women, and all the attention. In other words, Narcissistic Supply. Not love...just attention. They supposed to be aloof and be possessed of "amused mastery"...like James Bond, or Derek Flint, or Matt Helm. Comic-book characters, ones you see in the movies.

Here is the accepted definition of an "Alpha": "The alpha is the tall, good-looking guy who is the center of both male and female attention. The classic star of the football team who is dating the prettiest cheerleader. The successful business executive with the beautiful, stylish, blonde, size zero wife. All the women are attracted to him, while all the men want to be him, or at least be his friend. At a social gathering like a party, he's usually the loud, charismatic guy telling self-flattering stories to a group of attractive women who are listening with interest. However, alphas are only interested in women to the extent that they exist for the alpha's gratification, physical and psychological, they are actually more concerned with their overall group status."

This is an almost clinical description of a narcissist, and whoever came up with it has some problems. It's all about Narcissistic Supply, which is admitted in the definition.

And who does not give the narcissist his supply? The "Sigma." "The sigma is hated by alphas because sigmas are the only men who don't accept or at least acknowledge, however grudgingly, their social dominance. (NB: Alphas absolutely hate to be laughed at and a sigma can often enrage an alpha by doing nothing more than smiling at him."

The one thing that will destroy the self of any narcissist is to be laughed at. They consider it humiliation, and the effect on their fragile sense of self is devastating.

As Carl Jung noticed long ago, you have have power, or you can have love, but you cannot have both.

Notice the "Dumped, Discarded" in the title. As in "Pump 'n' Dump." Then discard. I have met these PUA types, some of whom have had sex with over 100 women. Without exception I have found them to be weaklings and cowards, and every one of them has severely damaged his life. All have been terribly insecure.

Why? Because they were getting all that Narcissistic Supply, and had power over women. When they got a little older the Narcissistic Supply went away, so their lives collapsed.

And none of them truly liked women, because they devalued them and considered them as things for their enjoyment. I've seen them laugh at how easily they manipulated young, stupid, naive women, how they enjoyed hurting them ("I told them what they wanted to hear.")

I recently read a PUA article, "No Girl Can Hurt A Man With Options." In other words, devalue and discard, never allow them to devastate your fragile self-esteem, make sure you get your Narcissistic Supply anyway you can.

Because of human nature, and its narcissistic splitting, an "Alpha" is always going to be idealized, and a "Beta" is going to be devalued. Contrary to protestations, there is no way around this. And that is another reason I never use the terms "Alpha" and "Beta."

As for "shit tests," I have never encountered one in my life. I've never known a man who has. What the concept is, in a roundabout way, is a fantasy about Narcissistic Supply. "Golly, she's shit-testing me! She must be a genetically superior woman! And I must be an Alpha, with superior Alpha sperm and genes!"

Pathetic.

I have seen guys mock and tease each other. It's how guys bond (do women not know this?) And I have seen women gossip and backstab each other (hence the insult among women of "catty.") I do not know why women do it, but I do know that smart women prefer men and don't want anything to do with these no-class women.

I have, however, encountered several bitchy, unpleasant women - all of whom were self-righteous mental cases, and all of whom had problems with men. And none of it had anything to do with "shit-testing." They were just whackjobs.

In many ways I consider the Manosphere to be a religious cult, at least among those who memorize the sillier concepts in it , and then try to imitate them. It even has its own private language that makes no sense to the uninitiated.

When the these profound flaws are pointed out, defense mechanisms are activated: ad hominem attacks, rationalization, scapegoating and ostracization. It's wearily predicable, and it's all about devaluation is defense of a weak self-image.

Many of the concepts in the Manosphere are perversions of the Four Cardinal Virtues: Courage, Justice, Prudence, Self-Control. Fortunately, in the long-run, the dross will be burned away and the truth will again emerge.


"What kind of emotional vampire needs 2-4 women to feel whole? A black hole of a person, is the kind of person who needs to do that. A person so vapid, empty, shallow, and lonely and self-loathing they need to gather a pack or harem in order to combine enough women into this Transformer like construction to block them from seeing their poor self-image and low self-value....but ultimately....it always returns. The mask always slips. The truth can never be completely ignored nor erased save only for a time. There is not enough alcohol, porn, pussy, sex, money in the world to fix a broken self-image." - Lust in the Age of Byrony.

7 comments:

Glen Filthie said...

I will take slight exception to this.

There are so 'Betas' - my father in law is one. He will always follow, he is pathetic leader and of course he is hen pecked 24/7 by his awful wife. The Japanese grass-eaters might also be a case in point. There are alphas too...about one real one for every 500 self proclaimed poseurs. They tend to be older, know their way around and are very much in control of themselves and their surroundings. They don't go looking for fights and will go to lengths to avoid them. They are the Patriarchs that feminists so love to hate.

I am the compleat girl watcher, Bob. I not only perv out over them, I watch their social interactions among themselves. The concept of the shit test IS valid and not just in the dating game. They will use it on each other when they establish their pecking orders and sometimes in family and social situations to test their boundries. Some of them are so incredibly devious you won't know the shit test was being done until you pass or fail it.

I look at womenfolk today and thank God for my wife. It is my scholarly opinion that there are no worthwhile females under the age of 45 today.

Eugenics Police said...

Shit tests exist. They are not limited to women. People at your job, school or hobby will shit-test you all the time. Even people in traffic do it. The MO is to do something stupid, then look up at you to see if you're going to call them on it. The only way to respond is:

1. Recognize. "Looks like you had a little oopsie."
2. Isolate. "You can avoid those by washing your hands first."
3. Include. "I've done this before, if you ever want someone around when you do it, just let me know."

Freaks 'em out every time.

Bob Wallace said...

These are not shit-tests. They are attempts at domination and bullying, and when you stand up to them they back down. Grandiosity on top, weak underneath. Narcissism.

"Shit-tests" is a Evo-Psych concept created by amateurs.

I deal with these people According to John Boyd: disconnect, isolate, disempower.

RobertW said...

White Knight Betas most definitely exist. I was one for most of my adult life. But I've never really thought of the "sphere" as a way to get one over on women. I've thought of it more as a recognition of the fact that we've been lied to about so many important things our whole lives. Two of the biggest: be a nice, sweet guy and women will want you. And go to college, work hard and you'll be rewarded.

Bob Wallace said...

I know White Knights exist. I was never a nice guy to woman. However, I did fall for go to college, get a good job.

My degree is worthless.

There is good advice and bad advice in the Manosphere. Judging by many of my comments, some men today cannot separate the good from the bad.

Glen Filthie said...

Perhaps we quibble over definitions, Bob? To me...a 'shit test' IS an attempt at bullying and intimidation?

Am I misunderstanding the term? The fuggin jargon infesting the manosphere needs to be thrown out, IMO. This yap of 'shit tests', 'betas', 'red pills', 'hamsters'...etc ad nauseum...it makes us sound stupid. Fact is the women do the same thing in a lame attempt to make themselves sound smarter.

Bob Wallace said...

I understand "shit-tests" to be something women supposedly do to test a man's genetic fitness. Now if it's defined at attempts at bullying and intimidation, why would any man put up with that?

I agree most of those terms only confuse and should be thrown out.

I do think "mangina" is a good word, though.