The Terrible Father, the Terrible Mother and the Manosphere

"When people are seduced by dominance and power, they inevitably make a Faustian pact with the devil. They satiate their unending hunger for more power by getting into bed with the devil. Of course, they find out too late that what they have given up in the bargain is their soul. Jung added, '…whoever prefers power is therefore, in the Christian view, possessed by the devil.'" - Paul Levy

The Greeks understood there were two ways of thinking about things: the mythos and the logos. Mythological and logical, although I think they are ultimately the same thing - which is why it is "mytho-logical," i.e. the logic of myth.

Mythologically, there is the Great Father/Terrible Father and the Great Mother/Terrible Mother. I think the easiest way to identify the Terrible Father/Terrible Mother is that both are interested only in power, domination and control, and both are incapable of love. At their worst that makes them psychopaths.

The Terrible Mother is the Witch, the Harlot, the seductive and destructive woman. In the West, Eve, Delilah and the Medusa (a beautiful woman with venomous snakes for hair), for some examples. The one who tries to turn men into boys or prevent them from turning into men. The one that "castrates" men, the one who leads them to destruction.

Feminism is an example of the Terrible Mother. It tries to destroy men (under the guise of "justice," of course). It wants to keep them boys and tries to prevent them from turning to men. These days, usually with the use of Ritalin. It's not about love but instead power, only power.

Wrote Jung: "The Terrible Mother wants to possess and smother, devour and destroy. She is angry and jealous, enslaving her husband, lovers, and children."

The Manosphere is a reaction to the destructiveness of feminism. Unfortunately, much of the Manosphere embodies the Terrible Father - the destructive, psychopathic Father. The Terrible Father traditionally eats his own children, as evidenced by Saturn eating his son.

It is the Terrible Father in the Manosphere who tells men not to get married and to not have children, unwittingly destroying the family, the basis of civilization. It is the Terrible Father who starts war and sacrifices his own. In Star Wars Darth Vader is a Terrible Father, consumed with power, incapable of love until his son he sacrifices his life for his son. He gives up power for love.

It is the Terrible Father who say women are incapable of love, who are "hypergamous", rationalizing, gold-digging whores who have no self-awareness and only seek "Alpha Fux and Beta Bux."

It is the Terrible Father who claims women like men who exhibit "Dark Triad" traits - power, domination, control and the inability to love. To paraphrase Jung, you can have power over others, or you can have love for them, but you can't have both.

In other words, some of those of the Manosphere are trying to use the Terrible Father to fight the Terrible Mother. It's not going to work.

Both men and women have to escape the clutches of both the Terrible Mother and the Terrible Father, both of whom are only interested in power and not love, and both of whom want to sacrifice both men and women. The way feminists try to sacrifice both women and men who don't agree with them, and the way some in the Manosphere try to scapegoat, expel and ostracize those who disagree with its beliefs.

Traditionally the way to escape the clutches of both has been marriage. "The symbol par excellence of the final escape from the family is marriage," writes Ray Harris. "It is the union of male and female which allows a new round of birth to occur. In patriarchal societies the daughter is given away by the father into the care of the husband. The marriage ceremony is a rite of passage into full adult responsibility (and marks the symbolic taming, the civilizing, of the wild youth). It recapitulates the ancient union of the god and goddess."

One of the things the writer is implying is that when marriage goes the society follows and up springs the Terrible Mother and Terrible Father. Which is exactly what we are now seeing.

"Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty." - John Adams