tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post3859352738252349501..comments2024-03-22T11:14:05.861-04:00Comments on UncleBob's Treehouse: The Manosphere and Naive RealismAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-27255377073497077772015-03-08T06:53:55.145-04:002015-03-08T06:53:55.145-04:00Another, far less viscerally repellent example wou...Another, far less viscerally repellent example would be an old SF novel "Collision Course" by Barrington J. Bayley.Mindstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949097462978386911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-23611020437547480792015-03-04T11:49:45.682-05:002015-03-04T11:49:45.682-05:00It should be quite obvious to a fan of science fic...It should be quite obvious to a fan of science fiction, that an alien perspective might be inconceivable to a human. And, for a human attempting to grasp it, that might require to 'step outside' the boundaries of human cognition. Hence, Lovecraftian horror is evoked.Mindstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949097462978386911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-78048793487835933432015-03-04T11:29:57.077-05:002015-03-04T11:29:57.077-05:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatic_maxim - wh...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatic_maxim - what do you think of this maxim? It might be understood as if one can't perceive some distinction (say, because of some mental disability that can be grouped under the rubric of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosia" rel="nofollow">agnosia</a>), then the distinction doesn't exist. Even intuitively it seems to be wrong. If I can't perceive objects as things-in-themselves (in the Kantian sense), that does not necessarily mean that they (and their supposedly imperceptible aspects) don't exist. It just means that my perceptions of them (phenomena) are more or less imperfect, sometimes being completely off the mark.Mindstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949097462978386911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-81459183694549578152015-03-02T15:31:12.214-05:002015-03-02T15:31:12.214-05:00"Saya no Uta" - that actually looks pret..."Saya no Uta" - that actually looks pretty damn interesting!Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-292806245352914102015-03-02T13:37:10.274-05:002015-03-02T13:37:10.274-05:00[name your unprovable religion of choice, here][name your unprovable religion of choice, here]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-34028159098977482002015-03-02T13:36:22.076-05:002015-03-02T13:36:22.076-05:00"You're writing of Evo-Psych, which isn&#..."You're writing of Evo-Psych, which isn't a real science .. "<br /><br />Lots of Psychology isn't 'real science' in that attempting to test some of the hypotheses might be cruel or take more than a human lifetime to establish the results.<br /><br />As a theory, that allows an individual to test his or her own behaviour against, it's as good a tool as, <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-64898278730037475942015-03-02T08:54:34.635-05:002015-03-02T08:54:34.635-05:00"Saya no Uta"
Oh good Lord I Googled it..."Saya no Uta"<br /><br />Oh good Lord I Googled it. Now I have to read it. Right up my alley.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-66670333291161807262015-03-02T07:02:29.566-05:002015-03-02T07:02:29.566-05:00I always had problems with the theory of universal...I always had problems with the theory of universals, but I believe they do exist.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-3254464894673555232015-03-02T05:52:58.954-05:002015-03-02T05:52:58.954-05:00I bet nobody else here could make a guess now what...I bet nobody else here could make a guess now what possible use has the title "Saya no Uta" in illustrating these ideas. :)Mindstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949097462978386911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-45186709003445850122015-03-02T05:37:14.838-05:002015-03-02T05:37:14.838-05:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type%E2%80%93token_d...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type%E2%80%93token_distinction - a hint. What divides tokens into types? Set theory and so on....Mindstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949097462978386911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-76724834300941162182015-03-01T22:27:47.373-05:002015-03-01T22:27:47.373-05:00Bob, if you still remember your philosophy classes...Bob, if you still remember your philosophy classes, what do you think about the problem of universals. Can they exist without minds hosting them? Do you remember Bertrand Russell and his reality theory? Does knowledge of universals consist of facts? Or is it always provisional to some degree?Mindstormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949097462978386911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-69670514361920542332015-03-01T21:54:43.389-05:002015-03-01T21:54:43.389-05:00So you're saying that successive approximation...So you're saying that successive approximations are a double-edged sword. That they may aid understanding, but also risk misleading via 'the map is not the territory' errors.alnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-88641052366213777972015-03-01T19:48:42.993-05:002015-03-01T19:48:42.993-05:00I feel that I begin to gather a slight glimmering ...I feel that I begin to gather a slight glimmering of things.<br /><br />I'm certain to backslide, though. It seems to happen a lot.Black Poison Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378635809751908950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-21319224049148116302015-03-01T17:30:04.131-05:002015-03-01T17:30:04.131-05:00You're writing of Evo-Psych, which isn't a...You're writing of Evo-Psych, which isn't a real science, and one of the frauds that the more nutty in the Manosphere twist to justify their beliefs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-36721015892141577622015-03-01T14:31:55.614-05:002015-03-01T14:31:55.614-05:00"Men good, women bad."
That's not ..."Men good, women bad." <br /><br />That's not what I come away with when reading manosphere tracts.<br /><br />Men and women both have evolved behavioural traits, which are to a greater or lesser extent suppressed by a civilisational veneer.<br /><br />Both have reproductive imperatives, both pursue those imperatives via differing strategies.<br /><br />We have civilisation because we have been able to restrain some of the more extreme aspects of each others mating strategies.<br /><br />There is tension and an equilibrium in the dynamic.<br /><br />It's actually quite beautiful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-42417280425470735102015-03-01T11:22:26.270-05:002015-03-01T11:22:26.270-05:00Yes, that is the delusion: to think the ideas in o...Yes, that is the delusion: to think the ideas in one's head are the same as reality out there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8497093028548856666.post-54770369245068060812015-03-01T11:05:03.903-05:002015-03-01T11:05:03.903-05:00So isn't the delusion when you tell yourself t...So isn't the delusion when you tell yourself that your ideas are in fact always reality?<br /><br />Even the greek letter soup can change dependent on people involved, time, location, status, etc. Nobody is 'alpha' all the time plus the perception you paint to the masses may not be in fact reality. It's the type of stuff you'd see in the Pravda. <br /><br />Besides most 'alpha' behaviors that are touted in the sphere are what sneaky males would do. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16190484330802907362noreply@blogger.com